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Lori Vallow Daybell is on trial in Maricopa County, Arizona, on one charge of conspiracy to commit the murder of Charles Vallow, her fourth husband. Nate Eaton is live in the courtroom with updates. Please excuse any typos. Times listed below are in Mountain Standard Time, so they are an hour behind Idaho. (Arizona does not observe Daylight Saving Time.) The most recent updates are at the top.
10:58 a.m. Treena asks Ynclan if, the day of the shooting, she understood all the facts of the case. Ynclan did not know everything – including the 47 minute lapse from the time the shooting happened to when 911 was called.
10:56 a.m. Treena asks about Ynclan’s interview with the defendant. “Is it normal for you to offer drinks or allow them to use the restroom?” Ynclan says it’s normal and there is nothing unusual about that. Treena asks if the defendant told her that she and Charles argued about the phone prior to Tylee being involved. Correct.
10:53 a.m. Treena goes over a few more timeline issues from that morning – when the shooting was called in, etc. Treena asks about Lori’s unusual behavior that day. “We’re driving and she’s just kind of chattering in the car and, given what was going in the situation and how she was acting, it was just odd to me.”
10:51 a.m. Lori instead said, “I already know because I was here.” Ynclan was surprised Lori knew. Now they needed to interview Tylee and Lori as witnesses. Treena asks how old Tylee was. 16 or 17, Ynclan says. Tylee was put in a separate room because you want to interview people separately because there could be influence from one person to the other. You want someone to share their own experience.
10:49 a.m. Treena asks about the death notification that Ynclan attempted to make. Ynclan says Lori and Tylee were both in a larger van – 10-12 passenger type van. Ynclan says you open the side door to get into the rear portion of the van. Ynclan says she opened the door and was trying to get Lori to come out of the van to speak outside of Tylee’s presence. “I felt it was more appropriate if I was about to tell somebody a family member died to deliver it to her. Typically then we will try to formulate a plan as to how we are going to tell children what happened.”
10:48 a.m. Treena says, “You were asked about being calm that day. Had your husband just been shot? In your own home? With children present?” Ynclan says no. Treena says, “Would it be difficult to compare yourself to the defendant’s behavior that day?” Ynclan says it would not be a good comparison.
10:47 a.m. Treena asks about Lori’s demeanor that day. “Did Lori Vallow’s behavior stand out to you?” “It did.” “Why?” “Based on what was going on, that we had a homicide, her husband had been shot and killed, her brother shot him, her children were partially present for this event….her demeanor seemed odd based on what was going on at the house that day.”
10:46 a.m. Lori asks if it’s correct that they voluntarily handed over Charles’ phone when asked. Ynclan said yes, she handed it over. Lori asks if she was ever not cooperative with police. Ynclan says she was cooperative with her. Lori has nothing further. Treena will now re-direct.
10:45 a.m. Lori asks if it was explained to her and Tylee if they could leave at any point. Ynclan says no. Lori asks if she asked to go to the ladies room at one point. “I believe so,” Ynclan says. Lori asks if they answered all the questions asked my police. “I believe so.”
10:44 a.m. Lori asks if she was fully cooperative with police. “You were cooperative in interviews with me.” Lori asks if they did what was instructed. “In your interview with me, you were cooperative.” Lori asks if she and Tylee knew they were not in custody. “I believe so.”
10:42 a.m. Lori is back at the lectern and asks Ynclan if she was aware Lori ran outside without shoes. “Yes, kind of,” Ynclan says. Lori asks if she learned Lori stopped at Walgreens to buy flip flops. Ynclan says Lori told her that. Lori asks if Ynclan verified that. “I did not. That was a different detective.” Lori asks how hot it was on July 11, 2019. “July in Arizona? I’d say it was probably warm.” Lori asks if it would have been difficult to walk JJ to his class on hot pavement without shoes on. Treena objects on relevance. Judge agrees – says jury can make their own conclusion as to how hot it could be in July in Arizona.
10:39 a.m. There seem to be technical issues with the headphones so Lori, her paralegal and the prosector approach the judge’s bench. We don’t know what they are saying.
10:37 a.m. Lori asks Ynclan if she has ever seen her not calm. Treena objects. Judge tells Lori to lay foundation. Lori asks for a sidebar to ask the judge a question. White noise is played and the headphones go on.
10:35 a.m. Lori asks Ynclan if she verified they went to Burger King. Ynclan is aware – says Lori told her that. Lori asks if she has seen the receipt from Burger King. Ynclan has not. Lori asks Ynclan if she is aware Lori also ordered two bottles of water. Ynclan says she is not aware. Lori says, “Are you aware of when people in stressful situation, it makes you thirsty?” Treena objects. Judge overrules. Ynclan says, “It can.” Lori asks if when someone is in fight-or-flight mode, can they get thirsty. Treena objects. Judge sustains. Lori asks if she was offered apple juice at the station because she had high adrenaline. Ynclan says she normally offers drinks to people.
10:34 a.m. We are live with video now here.
10:33 a.m. Lori asks if Ynclan learned JJ had autism. Ynclan says yes, Lori told her that and Ynclan spoke with JJ’s school. Lori asks when. Ynclan says during the course of the investigation she contacted the school in reference to when he attended and what services the school provides.
10:31 a.m. Lori asks if Ynclan is aware the entire altercation at the house only lasted a few minutes. Ynclan says that would be a fair assessment. Lori suggests it was less than two minutes. Ynclan says “we discussed that it probably happened in a relatively short amount of time” and did not talk about specific minutes.
10:30 a.m. Lori asks if Ynclan gives input on news releases. Ynclan says sometimes, but the Public Information Officer can just release it. Lori asks if, in this case, the PIO just put it out. Ynclan has no idea.
10:29 a.m. Lori asks if Ynclan spoke with Moffatt, who had interviewed Alex. Lori asks if she is aware of a press release that went out from the Chandler Police Department later that day. Ynclan is not aware.
10:28 a.m. Lori asks if people were monitoring the interview rooms. Supervisors can monitor from their desks but these particular rooms don’t have monitoring capabilities. After the interviews were done, Lori asks who decided to send them home. Ynclan says she decided to drive them back. Lori asks who gave authorization to release them. Ynclan says she did. Lori asks if she needed to talk to a supervior. Ynclan says no.
10:26 a.m. Lori asks about being taken into three different rooms at the police station. They were different interview rooms. Lori asks if supervisors were there.
10:24 a.m. Lori asks Ynclan if she is aware Charles had a $2 million life insurance policy on her. Ynclan says she was aware of a life insurance policy but she did not review anything related to life insurance.
10:23 a.m. Lori asks if Ynclan is aware of the reason Lori had two phones at the time. “Did you ask me?” “No, I wasn’t aware you had two phones.” Lori asks if Ynclan ever learned that Charles stole her phones so she had to replace them. Treena objects. Judge sustains. Lori says, “Your honor, it’s all part of the investigation.” Judge says the objection from prosecution is sustained.
10:22 a.m. Lori asks Ynclan if she ever requested that she turn her phone over. Ynclan says she did not. She did not ask for Tylee’s phone either. Lori asks if Ynclan ever saw the the threatening messages from Charles to her. Ynclan says she has not reviewed the reports or downloads from any of the phones.
10:21 a.m. Lori asks about the threatening text messages on the phone and if Ynclan looked at the messages on the phone. Ynclan says she did not. Lori asks if she was cooperative all that day. Ynclan says yes. Lori asks if Tylee was cooperative. “I believe so.” Lori asks if Alex was cooperative. Ynclan doesn’t know. She did not interview or talk with him.
10:20 a.m. Lori begins by asking Ynclan about the chain of custody of Charles’ phone. Lori asks how long from when Ynclan left the house to when it went into Computer Crimes Division. She says about 20 minutes. Lori asks if Ynclan used the passcode to access the phone. Ynclan did not. She did not do an exam on the phone.
10:19 a.m. We will have video from today in about 10 minutes. Here is the link.
10:17 a.m. Det. Casandra Ynclan is back on the stand. Jurors will be brought in. Treena State also plans to call Ariel Werther today. He testified in Lori’s Idaho case here and Chad’s Idaho case here.
10:15 a.m. Jeff White, Lori’s investigator, just walked in. The judge asks him if he spoke with Zach Cox and what relevant information he could have related to the trial. White says they spoke about his father and about information that is relevant to Charles. Judge asks if Zach has been served a subpoena. Jeff says, “As far as I know.” Judge says, “We will see if he actually gets served and shows up at court. If he doesn’t, it’s not an issue I need to deal with.” If he does, judge says they will need to work it out to see if Zach can even testify.
10:13 a.m. Judge asks for more specifics. Treena Kay says she spoke with Zach Cox and he had no idea why he would be called as a witness.
10:10 a.m. Another witness – Ashlynn Rynd. Lori says she has not been found or served. Gabril Bonilla has not been served. Lori is unsure if Barry Cox has been served. Judge says she’s out of time for these witnesses as the state is resting on Thursday or Monday, at the latest. Even if they are found and served to testify, Judge needs to know what relevant information they have to the case. State would need to interview them within the next day or so, but they could still be excluded because it’s late. Lori asks about Zack Cox and what relevant information he has. “He was with my brother Adam Cox that day, on the 11th, and had communication with Adam and Charles that day and prior to that.
10:08 a.m. Judge is now reviewing Lori’s witness list with her. First name – Vaisia Itaiahau., Tylee’s friend. Judge asks if they have found Vaisia. Lori says she needs to check with her investigator. Next witness – Gabriel Bonilla, the former bishop for Charles and Lori. Judge asks if he has been served with subpoena. Lori says they will look it up.
10:07 a.m. Judge now discussing a video that Summer Shiflet and Janis Cox have watched. The state wants testimony about the video precluded from the trial. Lori wants it included. Judge says unless the video comes in and someone lays foundation, witnesses can’t testify about what they saw in the video.
10:06 a.m. Judge tells Lori he is expecting her not to ask the type of questions to law enforcement as to why the investigation took so long or what was happening with the investigation. If Lori wants to ask those questions, she needs to ask to take a break and speak with the judge.
10:05 a.m. Judge asks Lori if she just signed a stack of subpoenas or knows who she even subpoenaed. She says she believes she knows. Judge says for the next trial, Lori needs to pay more attention.
10:04 a.m. Treena Kay says she became aware that Larry Woodcock was served with a subpoena in Louisiana and his next of kin victim rights were violated because the subpoena included his address and personal information. Treena asks Judge Justin Beresky to seal the subpoena. Judge agrees. Lori says Larry Woodcock was not intended to be subpoenaed – it was an oversight. Treena says the subpoena was signed by the defendant. Judge asks Lori how it was an oversight. “I just signed them all. I did not check them. It’s my own fault. I apologize to the family.”
10 a.m. Back in the courtroom. It’s day 6. There are a handful of public seats open but a lot of spectators here again today. Lori Vallow Daybell uust walked in wearing a black jacket and black pants.
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