On the latest episode of his highly popular Armchair Expert podcast, host Dax Shepard got into a heated conversation about gender-affirming care and transgender children competing in sports with his guest, Queer Eye star Jonathan Van Ness, that culminated with Van Ness breaking down into tears of frustration.
“Do I wish that the trans woman athlete had access and could play and follow her dream? I do,” Shepard said at one point during the interview. “Will I elevate her rights over women? We’re pretending that women aren’t the ultimate marginalized class throughout history.”
“I could just cry because I’m so tired of having to fight for little kids because they just want to be included,” Van Ness, eventually responded as they could be heard audibly shedding tears. “I wish that people were as passionate about little kids being able to be included or grow up as they were about fictitious women’s fairness in sports.”